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Have you ever drunk crap wine? - 21 October 2008

 

Just got an email with the following link to a BBC story on crap wine, or 'Vin de Merde'. One enterprising Languedoc winemaker has had enough of the constant jibes that the wines from the Languedoc are cheap and nasty and has bottled his wine under the 'Vin de Merde' label (roughly translated as crap wine). Seems to be going down well with the assembled tasters in the clip. I think the label is pretty good, notice the fly in the corner. It's all in the attention to detail.

Slightly serious undertone though as the Languedoc is getting more polarised. On the one hand it is still churning out cheap wine for the bottom shelves where at the opposite end some seriously good wine is produced at very serious prices. All the while the EU is trying to encourage the vignerons to grub up their vines. A consistent picture it isn't.

Never mind, enjoy the clip. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/7681295.stm

 

For those who want to try it, me for one, it looks like it was a sell-out so no luck, but let me know if anyone knows where to get a bottle.

 

Feedback from a biodynamic producer in the Languedoc - 16 February 2006.

I was just browsing through Jancis Robinsons site and I came across yours. I wonder if you read her Wine of the Week at the beginning of the year , which were our wines, we are also in her 100 best wines of the south of France.

I notice that your Languedoc tastings last year were not particularly impressive judging by your notes. That's a shame as there are some wonderful wines down here.

We are trying to sell as much as possible direct, as a small outfit such as ours with a high labour input producing no more than 20 hl per hectare needs to maximise its return. That way the imbiber gets a good deal and so do we.

You may be interested to look at our website www.lesclosperdus.com You can also buy on line, should you be interested!

Kind Regards,

Hugo Stewart

Pieter:

I will be ordering one of the mixed cases and as long as it arrives in time I'll include one of the wines in the 'winter warmer' tasting on Saturday the 25th of February. I'll report back on the others in due course.

 

Updated 26 February: Les Clos Perdus - Cuvee 21 2004 managed the highest score yet in our panel tasting last night. See Panel Tasting Winter Warmers for the results. I will report on the other wines soon.

 

 

Some Fiji/Australian Feedback on the Chardonnay Tasting - 24 October 2005

Hi Pieter,
 
Was interesting to read your comments about the Chardonnays at your recent tasting. Nice to see the trusty Wolf Blass Chardy made it to the top of your list and glad you're still flying that trusty Aussie flag....
 
It's also interesting to note, that you're not paying very much more for it in Tesco's.   From memory I think it's about  $15 - $18 a bottle in Australia depending on where you get it from.
 
Now that I'm in FIJI, I've drifted away from my favourite reds am leaning toward the Verdelho...however, it's not terribly easy to source here, so most nights I have to settle for a chardonnay.
 
I'd be interested to hear your comments about and recommendations on any Verdelhos that you might have come across.  My favourite is the Margret River Verdelho - somewhat classic style and light without being too fruity - well that's my 'unqualified' tasting notes for you.

Julianne.

 

Pieter:

Hi Julieanne,

Thanks for the info and pleasing to know that we're not paying over the odds here for a change. Just having been to Germany and France and seeing the prices they pay still makes me depressed. Generally, whatever they pay in Euros, we pay in Pounds, if not more.

I've tried the occasional Verdelho, originally a Portuguese variety, used in the production of Madeira. It's also grown in the Douro (Port) and in Galicia known as Godello (Verdello). It is now grown quite widely in Australia in the Hunter Valley and some parts of Western Australia, but also very successfully in the McLaren Valley in South Australia.
I'll try and source a couple and will report back to you. I do remember tasting one at an Oddbins Tasting back in May. I'll look up the tasting note, I think it might have been Bleasdale (Langhorne Creek)

Pieter

 

Questioning the scoring system. 21 August 2005.

Pieter! Good morning!

Hope the wine tasting went well the other day. So cool that you have the notes on the site so quickly! I was just wondering if the range of the scoring system (1 - 5) is enough to give the wines the end rating. Should you perhaps explain how the scoring is done and what a 1/5, 2/5 etc represents? For example, you give the Old Vine Grenache a 3/5 and say it did not do too badly considering the overall score, but then the 2/5 for the Domaine de la Rectorie was described as unpopular, similar to old tea and potentially faulty whereas the overall classification is one category below the Old Vine Grenache. Is that maybe the reason why the Decanter Magazine gives marks out of 100? I am sure that when the word gets round the site will be popular! How often were you planning to have a tasting by the way?
E

Pieter:
Hi Erwin,

Wow, how quick are you!
You’re quite right about the scoring system. It seems a bit limited. Decanter Magazine actually use a 20 point scoring system, where 12 is generally the lowest score awarded and 20 the highest. Depending on the range the score fits, they award one to five stars. It’s a good system, but a bit complicated and I didn’t want to make things to complex to start off. I could show the scores out of 30 with a subsequent ‘star rating’, which will make it a bit more meaningful to the reader. Once we all get more experienced at it we can refine the scoring system.
How often? As often as possible. We had a great time and we’re setting a date for sometime in October for the next tasting. However we’ll maybe try and get an informal one in with you in September if you’re up for it. Could there be an Italian theme in it, if Andrea wants to join us as well?
Thanks for your feedback. You’ve just given me an idea to include an actual feedback page on the site. Watch this space.
Pieter.